Description
RAW Nutrition CBUM Thuper Thavage
The maximum-intensity version of Thavage. Every major ingredient is doubled or upgraded, and it carries 400mg of caffeine in a single fixed scoop.
Do not exceed one scoop in 24 hours. That is not a formality — it is the entire dosing instruction, and it is the first thing to understand about this product.
⚠ 400mg in one scoop, with no way to take less
This is the most important difference from regular Thavage and it is worth being precise about.
400mg is the full daily amount the FDA cites as safe for healthy adults — in one serving, before any coffee, energy drink or anything else you consume that day.
Regular Thavage is designed to be taken as one scoop or two, so you can start at roughly 153mg and work up. Thuper Thavage has no such flexibility. One scoop is the serving, and one scoop is 400mg.
If you have not comfortably handled a 300mg-plus pre-workout before, this is not the place to find out.
⚠ Alpha yohimbine
Thuper contains alpha yohimbine (rauwolscine), which regular Thavage does not.
Alpha yohimbine is an alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist, and it is considerably more potent than standard yohimbine. In a meaningful share of users it produces anxiety, an elevated heart rate, nausea and sweating that has nothing to do with training quality.
Combined with 400mg of caffeine, that is a substantial stimulant load acting through two different mechanisms.
Not for anyone with a cardiovascular condition, high blood pressure, or an anxiety disorder, and not for tested athletes. Speak to your doctor before using it if you take any prescription medication.
What is actually in it
| Beta-Alanine | 6,400mg |
| L-Citrulline | 6,000mg (pure, not malate) |
| Creatine Monohydrate | 5,000mg |
| Caffeine | 400mg |
| Also contains | Alpha-GPC, L-Tyrosine, Huperzine A, taurine (doubled), PeakO2, alpha yohimbine |
| Servings | 20 — one scoop only |
| Flavours | Citrus Grapefruit, White Cherry, 6PEAT, Christopher's Thuper Secret Stuff |
"Thuper" is a nod to Chris Bumstead's lisp — his own pronunciation of "super." The name is a joke; the formula is not.
6.4g beta-alanine is double the researched dose — and here is what that means
The standard beta-alanine dose is 3.2g, which is what regular Thavage and most pre-workouts use. Thuper doubles it.
Doubling the dose does not double the benefit. Beta-alanine works by raising muscle carnosine, and carnosine stores saturate — past a point, more beta-alanine does not produce more carnosine. What doubling reliably does is double the tingling.
That paraesthesia is harmless and fades within roughly half an hour, but at 6.4g it is intense enough that some people find it genuinely uncomfortable. It is also, for many buyers, the thing that makes the product feel powerful — which is worth recognising for what it is.
The creatine is a genuine addition, with a catch
5,000mg of creatine monohydrate is a full daily dose and a real inclusion — regular Thavage has none.
But creatine works through daily saturation, not acutely. Taking it only on training days, in a pre-workout you are limited to one scoop of, means you are not taking it consistently. Creatine needs to go in every day, including rest days, to keep muscle stores saturated.
So treat this creatine as a bonus on training days rather than as your creatine strategy. If creatine matters to you, take a standalone creatine daily and simply account for the extra 5g on the days you use Thuper.
And do not stack a full separate creatine dose on top on those days. 5g is already a full serving.
PeakO2
A blend of adaptogenic mushrooms including cordyceps, studied in relation to oxygen utilisation and endurance under load. A less common inclusion and one aimed at work capacity rather than the stimulant experience.
Thavage or Thuper Thavage?
| Thavage | Thuper Thavage | |
| Caffeine | 305mg full serving, ~153mg at one scoop | 400mg, fixed |
| Dosing flexibility | One or two scoops | One scoop only |
| Beta-Alanine | 3.2g | 6.4g |
| Creatine | None | 5g |
| Alpha yohimbine | No | Yes |
| Servings | 40 scoops / 20 full | 20 |
Our honest recommendation: start with Thavage. It covers the same ground with clinical doses across the board, and the scoop flexibility means you can find your own level. Thuper is for people who have already established that a 300mg-plus pre-workout suits them and want more.
Limited availability
Thuper Thavage is released as a single batch rather than run continuously. When it sells through, it is generally gone until the next release. Worth knowing if you find a flavour you like.
How to take it
- One scoop, 20 to 30 minutes before training. Never more than one in 24 hours.
- No other caffeine that day. 400mg is the whole allowance.
- Morning or early afternoon only. 400mg at 4pm still leaves around 200mg at 10pm.
- Not every session. Stimulant tolerance builds fast at this dose, and running it daily means it stops working and you have nowhere to go.
- Do not add a pump product or extra creatine. Both are already fully dosed.
- Save it for the sessions that warrant it. Heavy days, competitions, genuine peak efforts.
Who this is for
- Experienced pre-workout users who have comfortably handled 300mg-plus and want more
- People who want creatine, citrulline and beta-alanine all fully dosed in one scoop
- Anyone saving a stronger product for specific heavy sessions rather than daily use
Who this is not for
Beginners, under any circumstances. There is no half-scoop route here.
Tested athletes. Alpha yohimbine.
Anyone with a cardiovascular condition, high blood pressure, or an anxiety disorder. 400mg caffeine plus alpha yohimbine is a serious combined load.
Anyone who drinks coffee through the day, unless they are willing to stop on training days.
Anyone training in the evening.
Anyone who dislikes the beta-alanine tingle — at 6.4g it is double the usual and genuinely intense.
Not for anyone under 18, pregnant or nursing.
Stack it with: nothing. Everything in here is already at a full dose.
Frequently asked questions
How much caffeine is in Thuper Thavage?
400mg in a single scoop — the full amount the FDA cites as a daily maximum for healthy adults, before anything else you consume that day.
Can I take half a scoop?
The product is formulated as a one-scoop serving. If you want dosing flexibility, regular Thavage is designed for it — one scoop or two from the same tub.
What is alpha yohimbine?
Rauwolscine, an alpha-2 adrenergic antagonist considerably more potent than standard yohimbine. It causes anxiety, elevated heart rate and nausea in a meaningful share of users, and it is not permitted for tested athletes.
Why is there twice as much beta-alanine?
6.4g against the standard 3.2g. Carnosine stores saturate, so doubling the dose does not double the benefit — but it does reliably double the tingling.
Does it contain creatine?
Yes, 5g. But creatine works by daily saturation, so a training-day-only pre-workout is not a substitute for taking creatine every day. Treat it as a bonus and do not add a second full dose on those days.
Should I buy this or regular Thavage?
Thavage, unless you have already established that a 300mg-plus pre-workout suits you. It has clinical doses throughout and lets you choose one scoop or two.
Can I take it every session?
Not advisable. Tolerance builds quickly at 400mg and you have nowhere to escalate to. Save it for sessions that warrant it.
Why is it hard to find?
It is produced as a single batch release rather than run continuously.
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